HomeMy WebLinkAbout10-17-17Minutes of the Town Council Work Session held at 5:00 p.m. Tuesday, October 17, 2017 in the
Council Chambers of the Town Municipal Building at 42 First Street. N.W.
In attendance were:
Mayor: Robert N. Glenn, presiding
Councilmen Present: David L. Clark; Gregory C. East; Joseph K. Goodman;
H.M. Kidd; Lane R. Penn: James A. Radcliffe
Administration: Shawn M. Utt, Town Manager
Nichole L. Hair, Deputy Town Manager
Spencer Rygas, Town Attorney
Press: Brooke J. Wood, Southwest Times
Staff: Dave Hart, Parks & Facilities
Robbie Kiser, P.F.D.
Bill Pedigo, Town Engineer
David Quesenberry, Clerk of Council
Rebecca Reece, Finance Director
Gary Roche. P.P.D.
Others Present: Ike Jeanes John McElroy
. Mayor Glenn called the meeting to order at 5:00 p.m.
Following roll call Mayor Glenn asked for a motion to modify the agenda to add under Public
Operations, Item 8d, "Programming Resolution for Commerce Street Bridge and Item 8e
"Resolution Requesting a Transportation Alternatives Project for West Main". Also requested for
addition to the agenda were two closed sessions under Item 15 with one additional item under
Va. Code 2.2-3711 A (7) consultation with legal counsel concerning a former engineering
employee and another additional item under Va. Code 2.2-3711 A (1) personnel matter regarding
the Town Manager's Evaluation.
Mr. Goodman moved that the agenda be modified as requested by the Mayor. Mr. Clark
seconded the motion which was approved on the following roll call vote:
Mr.
Radcliffe
-Aye
Mr.
Goodman
-Aye
Mr.
East
-Absent
Mr.
Kidd
-Aye
Mr.
Clark
-Aye
Mr.
Penn
-Aye
Mayor Glenn then welcomed guests and visitors to the meeting.
Mr. East joined the meeting at 5:05 p.m.
Next item on the agenda (Item 5) was the Consent Agenda. Mayor Glenn asked for a motion
regarding the September 19, 2017 work session minutes. Mr. Kidd moved to adopt the
minutes of the September 19, 2017 Council meeting as written. The motion was seconded by
Mr. Clark and approved by unanimous voice vote.
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Mayor Glenn then moved on to "Public Hearings" (Item 6a) concerning the FY 2017-2018
budget amendment.
Mr. Utt summarized and briefly reviewed the amendments which involved "roll over" funds
from the previous fiscal year and new items. The total amount of amendments for all three
funds (General, Water, & Sewer) totaled $676,800.92 (General -$478,876.92; Water -
$85,000.00; Sewer -$113,000.00).
Concerning the General Fund amendments, there were approximately $170,000 in grant
funds and $150,830 in capital projects funding received or appropriated last fiscal year but
which were to be "rolled over" to be spent this fiscal year. Remaining funds included: $50,000
for the ACCE program; $75,000 payment to the UDAG loan for the James Hardie Project;
and $30,000 for items for vehicle upgrades and bike patrol overtime.
The Water Fund portion he continued, was mostly "carry over" for the rehabilitation reserves
(Gatewood -$25,000. and Raw Water Rehab -$10,000) and the Brookmont Planning Grant
($50,000). Those funds were received last fiscal year but would not be spent until this fiscal
year.
The Sewer Fund amendments included funds for projects that were started but not completed
(Sewer Line Replacement $20,000 and 4A Grit Chambers $15,000) and additional reserve
funds for the Pump Station, Sewer Force Main, Sewer Manhole Rehabilitation Reserve
Funds and the RD funds for the James Hardie Sewer Direct Inject PER.
Mr. Goodman asked how much of the amendments represented a net gain. Mr. Utt explained
as of June 30th, the funds left over automatically went into the reserves and would be taken
from the reserves when appropriated. After reviewing the figures, Mr. Goodman estimated
the net change would be $75,000, which Mr. Utt confirmed.
Mayor Glenn then opened the public hearing on the budget amendment at 5:09 p.m. After
calling for comments and receiving none, he closed the public hearing at 5:10 p.m.
Following the public hearing, Mr. Goodman moved that Council adopt Resolution 2017-22
amending the budget for the Town of Pulaski, Virginia for the fiscal year beginning July 1,
2017 and ending June 30, 2018 as proposed. The motion was seconded by Mr. Clark and
approved on the following roll call vote:
Mr. Radcliffe -Aye
Mr. East -Aye
Mr. Clark -Aye
Mr. Goodman -Aye
Mr. Kidd -Aye
Mr. Penn -Aye
Next issue considered was Item 8a under "Public Operations", `Town Property Hunting
Options'. Mr. Utt said that the consensus of Council at the last meeting was that any Town
owned properties in the corporate limits were not suitable for hunting. In referring to a map of
hunting areas on the Town lands located south along Route 11, Mr. Utt said that the Town
land on the east side of Route 11 most suitable for hunting and was the least used property.
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Mr. Utt felt that there was one portion on the west side of Route 11 that would be far away
from the Police range for hunting. However it would require a 3,500 foot fence to secure the
property along the ridge top behind the former landfill site. The larger area on the map,
located on the southwest side of Route 11, had many bike trails and was not suitable for
hunting. He strongly encouraged Council to open the area to the east of Route 11 for hunting
by permit only, on a "first come -first serve" basis for perhaps ten hunters.
Mr. Penn advised that the Arsenal placed hunters in specific areas who were supervised by
Arsenal personnel. Mr. Utt replied that the Town did not have the personnel to supervise
hunters in the area.
Mr. Radcliffe asked how many people were being discussed. Mr. Utt replied that four persons
had asked him about hunting. He said that there had been some citizens of the Town that
were requesting permission to hunt and he felt it was appropriate that the matter be brought
to Council.
Mr. Radcliffe replied he did not have a problem with a "first come, first serve" policy for the
citizens of the Town. He said he was not sure what the solution for deer in the Town would
be, since he felt hunting in Town would be too dangerous.
Mr. Goodman suggested that the two parcels (70 acres and 115 acres) on the east side of
Route 11 be opened to hunting to see how it goes. This would allow discussion for the west
side area after finding what allowing hunting would entail from a staff perspective and usage.
He felt the Town did not need the cost of a 3,500 foot fence for the west side area.
Mr. East's concern over the 70 acre portion on the east side was that it appeared to adjoin a
residential area. Mayor Glenn suggested not including the 70 acres because it was too close
to the Draper Mountain subdivision. He felt that using the 115 acre tract was fine but he also
cautioned that the site bordered the Aust property where hunting was prohibited. Overall he
felt the section was a rather narrow area for hunting.
Mr. Rygas brought up the possibility that the town was unintentionally creating an unfair
process by some persons perhaps having "inside information" as to the application process.
He asked how notification would be given to the public and how many persons would be
notified.
Mr. Goodman suggested that a lottery system could be used to pick names at random for
each hunting season. Parties who were picked would then complete an application process
including a release of liability, etc.
Mr. East asked how this issue began. Mr. Utt informed him that citizens had come to him
about the urban archery program regarding Oakwood while two other citizens asked him
where they could hunt on Town property other than Oakwood, specifically Draper's Mountain.
Mr. East said he was concerned that Council was creating a lot of work for staff and
questioned if this extra activity was really worth it.
Mr. Goodman mentioned that the Town had programs for small groups of people which are
done as a quality of life issue and to include some of the things that citizens like to do. He felt
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the hunters had been "disregarded" to hunt on Town land, which as a Town citizen they co-
own. While not many citizens may benefit, and a little more work made for Town staff, he felt
this was another way to include more citizens in their community.
Mr. East felt there needed to be a lottery or other system developed and publicized before
permits were issued. Mr. Goodman suggested looking for such systems online then informing
the public about the provisions of the system. He asked Mr. Utt what else would be required
of staff. Mr. Utt said it would be a matter of what department would oversee the program. If
done once a year, he felt it would not be much of a burden.
Mr. Penn said he felt the matter was being made too complicated. He did not understand why
there was a problem since people had been hunting on Draper's Mtn. for twenty years and
nothing was said.
Mr. Hart noted that the Town property was not posted and that the boundary lines were not
well established making it easy to get onto another person's property.
On Mr. Radcliffe's question on liability, Mr. Rygas said hunters could be asked for a release
of liability. He said that a "Pandora's Box" had been opened in that the Town had admitted
there was no hunting on town property, which had not been enforced nor was the property
posted. If hunting was not allowed, he counseled that the property should be posted and a
follow-up done to protect the Town from any potential liability. He recommended that the
issue be discussed with the Town's insurer, with which Mr. Utt agreed.
While the opportunity for this hunting season had passed and the policy was still no hunting
on Town property, Mr. Utt said that posting of the property should proceed. Staff could
research the issue further after contacting VACORP for additional information.
Mayor Glenn felt the issue should be tabled so that staff could study the issue since it would
not be in time for this hunting season.
Mr. East asked since given the fact the land was not posted, was there a need to do
something in the interim. Mr. Rygas said it would be advisable for the Town's protection to
take the measures discussed (posting the property).
Next item on the agenda was the "Gatewood Public/Private Partnership Options" (Item 8b.).
Mr. Utt said that a similar potential public-private partnership proposed for Gatewood was
being developed for the Explore Park, which is owned and operated by Roanoke County.
Like the Town did with Gatewood, a strategic plan for Explore Park was prepared by
Roanoke County for ways to improve the operations of the park.
After completion of the plan for Explore Park, RFP's were prepared for various areas of the
park's operation such as: programs and activities; special events: food, beverage, gas &
outfitting; overnight accommodations; and an aerial adventure course. Staff, he continued
wanted to use this model and put together public-private options for Gatewood to increase
revenues and minimize expenses. The process would take from three to five years, but staff
expected to get draft RFP's in front of Council soon for their review.
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Mr. East asked about the three to five year process. Mr. Utt said he expected that anyone
who would submit an RFP would expect a three to five year commitment by the Town to the
private entity. Mr. Utt added that the Gatewood Master Plan would be used as the model for
the RFP's in the same manner as the master plan for Explore Park.
Mr. East ventured that the RFP's would be done in short order. Mr. Utt said he hoped that he
would have some results by budget time. Mayor Glenn estimated the time frame at about six
months because potential vendors had to find out what the Town wanted to do, then go to the
park and look at it, since they would be starting from scratch. Mr. Penn felt that a firm should
be able to sign on for a three to five year term due to the cost of their investment.
There being no more discussion, Mayor Glenn moved to Item 8c, "Update on Alley/Street
Closure Case No. 3-2017."
Mr. Goodman moved that the issue be taken off of the table for discussion. The motion was
seconded by Mr. Radcliffe and approved on the following roll call vote:
Mr. Radcliffe -Aye
Mr. East -Aye
Mr. Clark -Aye
Mr. Goodman -Aye
Mr. Kidd -Aye
Mr. Penn -Aye
Mr. Utt updated Council on the status of the request from VuhVanagon to close a portion of
Eastman Street. He reported that Mr. Lindamood had purchased properties from Haney and
Turman, but that there had been no response from the Powers whose property had a "paper
right of way" to Monroe Avenue that would not result in their being landlocked. Mr.
Lindamood said he would be willing to grant an ingress -egress easement to go across their
property if it was needed to move the request along. Mr. Utt felt that Council needed to take
action one way or another.
Mr. East said the Powers property was not the Town's issue. Mr. Goodman expressed his
concern that there was nothing in writing from Mr. Lindamood concerning how he would grant
an easement for the Powers property. He expressed his discomfort in closing the right of
way, possibly creating a dead end and that he could not support the proposal.
Mr. Kidd said he wanted to put the matter on hold until Council had something further from
Mr. Lindamood. Mr. Goodman reminded Council that as long as the matter was placed on
hold, staff could take no enforcement action. Mr. Kidd then replied that he could not support
the proposal either. Mr. Radcliffe added that he would support Council's action. Likewise Mr.
Penn said he was "fed up" with the situation.
Mr. Goodman moved that Council deny the request for the street closing listed as
3-2017. Mr. Radcliffe seconded the motion which was approved by the following roll call vote:
Mr. Radcliffe -Aye Mr. Goodman -Aye
Mr. East -Aye Mr. Kidd -Aye
Mr. Clark -Aye Mr. Penn -Aye
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Following the vote, Mayor Glenn moved to Item 8d "Programming Resolution for the
Commerce Street Bridge."
Mr. Utt told the Council that about a year ago the Town was notified that the Route 99 project
had accumulated $1.3 million more than what the project would have cost, because the
accumulation of funds to 4 -lane Route 99 to the Interstate had not keep pace with the rising
cost of the two bridges needed for the project. When the project was scaled back, funds were
left that either had to be spent on another project or they would be returned to the state's
Urban System for statewide allocation.
Mr. Utt explained that the next project on the Town's priority list was the Commerce Street
Bridge to which the $1.3 million could be applied upon formal action by the Council in
approving a resolution. While the money might not be quite enough to replace the bridge, Mr.
Utt said, it would go a long way towards the project.
Mayor Glenn asked if the resolution were approved, would the money continue to accumulate
for the total project or would it start with the $1.3 million. Mr. Utt replied that the project would
start with the $1.3 million, which had been accumulating several years prior to a change in
the state formula that resulted in more competition for state funds. The Commerce Bridge he
added was high on the needs list in the Salem District which he felt gave the Town a better
chance to get more money.
Mr. Kidd said he preferred the money to be applied to Route 99, emphasizing his desire to
extend utilities to the Interstate. He asked if Rt. 99 would be repaved. Mr. Utt said that was a
future state project since it was outside the Town limits. The utilities for Rt. 99, Mr. Utt said,
was a different project that would have to be worked out with the County.
Mr. Goodman moved to adopt Resolution 2017-24 as written. Mr. Penn seconded the motion
which was approved on the following roll call vote:
Mr. Radcliffe
-Aye
Mr.
Goodman
-Aye
Mr. East
-Aye
Mr.
Kidd
-Aye
Mr. Clark
-Aye
Mr.
Penn
-Aye
Next item considered by Council was the "Resolution Requesting a Transportation
Alternatives Project for West Main" (Item 8e).
Mr. Utt mentioned the recent CDBG grant for the Downtown Revitalization. Part of that
project could be replacement of sidewalks and other items funded by the former TEA -21
program from VDOT. While the actual amount was not known, the VDOT money would go
towards sidewalks; crosswalks; traffic calming measures; aesthetic improvements; and
wayfinding signage. The program required a 20% match which would come from the CDBG
funds so there would be no effect on the General Fund.
The resolution, Mr. Utt continued, did not have a set amount, but only stated that the Town
would come up with the 20% required match. If Council desired to move forward, he added,
the cost estimates would be finalized and a public hearing held in November with all materials
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submitted to VDOT by early January. The resolution however, had to be received by VDOT
before November 1St
Mayor Glenn asked if the fagade work through the revitalization grant would proceed first,
followed by the work on sidewalks, etc. Mr. Utt said there would be some overlap including a
study of what infrastructure would need to be replaced. Mayor Glenn then asked when the
fagade work would begin. Mr. Utt and Ms. Hair both estimated by the summer of 2018.
Regarding the timeline for this project, Mayor Glenn asked if it would extend to 2019. Mr. Utt
said the timeline for the grant application would consist of the Commonwealth's
Transportation Board vote in April/May 2018 with contracts signed in early summer, so it
would be late summer or early fall 2018.
Mr. Goodman asked if two way traffic would be considered. Mr. Utt said he did not know, but
he had no plans to propose two way traffic at this time. The focus he felt should be on the
revitalization completion; the traffic patterns could be considered later.
Mr. East said regarding the $700k grant, it was critical that the Town "shine" in the execution
of the grant and that he would like to see a way that Council could get monthly briefings on
the project's status. Mr. Utt added that the state's representatives were coming October 25th
for a negotiation meeting. The Mayor mentioned that given the other efforts underway in
Downtown, such as private efforts and the roof grant investments, coordination of the various
projects would be required.
There being no further discussion, Mr. Goodman moved to adopt Resolution 2017-25 as
written. The motion was seconded by Mr. East and approved on the following roll call vote:
Mr. Radcliffe -Aye
Mr. East -Aye
Mr. Clark -Aye
Mr. Goodman -Aye
Mr. Kidd -Aye
Mr. Penn -Aye
Council then moved to the next item on the agenda (Item 10a), "Resolution 2017-23,
"Appointments to Pepper's Ferry Regional Wastewater Treatment Authority". Mr. Utt said that
Mr. Worrell's and Mr. Pedigo's term did not expire until December, but given current issues
facing the Authority, he wanted to be sure that Town representation was present.
Mr. Goodman moved for adoption of Resolution 2017-23 as written. His motion was
seconded by Mr. Penn and approved on the following roll call vote:
Mr. Radcliffe
-Aye
Mr. Goodman
-Aye
Mr. East
-Aye
Mr. Kidd
-Aye
Mr. Clark
-Aye
Mr. Penn
-Aye
Next item on the agenda was the "Roundtable Discussion" (Item 14).
Mr. Radcliffe complemented the Fire Dept. and Town employees on the Fire Prevention
Parade and asked about the status of the Compensation Study. Mr. Utt said he had talked to
the consultants the previous week and they would be meeting with the Department Heads on
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October 25th. The consultants are scheduled to be on the Council agenda for the November
8th meeting.
Mr. East said he wanted to make the short term project chart a 30 day/60 day/90 day chart,
because the other project chart could take care of the longer term items. Following
discussion, Council directed Mr. Utt to prepare 30/60/90 day and 3/6/9 month project charts.
Mr. Clark congratulated the staff for the remarkable work on the CDBG and the successes
with the grants over the past years.
Mr. Goodman said that he heard many complements in Blacksburg concerning the activities
of the Town. He also hoped for further work on personnel policies such as smoking and
vehicles.
Mr. Kidd asked about the status of the new fire truck. Chief Kiser said a contract had been
signed for the new vehicle the previous week.
Mr. Penn complemented the Fire Department on their beef stew luncheon during Fire
Prevention Week.
Mayor Glenn said he noticed that there were a lot more people at the Fire Parade this year.
He also said that employees had been sharing with him their growing concern on health
insurance, especially in light of possible rate increases. He hoped that the Town could plan
ahead and prepare for this serious issue.
Mr. Utt said that he had contacted the Town's insurance carrier as to the effects or potential
effects on group plans and hoped to hear back from them.
Council then moved to the Closed Session portion of the agenda (Item 15). Mayor Glenn asked
for a motion to go into Closed Session for three items under Va. Code 2.2-3711 (A)7
Consultation with legal counsel and briefings by staff members or consultants pertaining to
actual or probable litigation, where such consultation or briefing in open meeting would
adversely affect the negotiating or litigating posture of the public body for three (3) matters
involving: sewer non-compliance, a cable franchise agreement, and a former engineering
employee; and one (1) item under Virginia Code 2.2-3711, (A)1, discussion for consideration
of employment, assignment, appointment, promotion, performance, demotion, salaries,
disciplining, or resignation of public officers, appointees or employees regarding the Town
Manager Evaluation.
Mr. Goodman moved to enter Closed Session. Mr. Clark seconded the motion which was
approved by the following roll call vote:
Mr.
Radcliffe
-Aye
Mr.
Goodman
-Aye
Mr.
East
-Aye
Mr.
Kidd
-Aye
Mr.
Clark
-Aye
Mr.
Penn
-Aye
Council went into Closed Session at 6:16 p.m.
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Council returned from Closed Session at 8:35 p.m.
Mayor Glenn called for a motion certifying that the Town Council discussed only those issues
for which it went into Closed Session. The Mayor's request for a motion was so moved by Mr.
Kidd, seconded by Mr. Goodman and approved on the following roll call vote:
Mr.
Radcliffe
-Aye
Mr.
Goodman
-Aye
Mr.
East
-Aye
Mr.
Kidd
-Aye
Mr.
Clark
-Aye
Mr.
Penn
-Aye
After reviewing future meeting dates of the Council, Mayor Glenn called for a motion to
adjourn. The motion was made by Mr. Goodman, seconded by Mr. Kidd and carried by
unanimous voice vote of the Council at 8:38 p.m.
ATTEST:
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David N. Quesenberry
Clerk of Council
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Approved:
Rob Glenn
Mayor
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