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Minutes of the Pulaski Town Council meeting held at 7:00 p.m., February 6, 2018 in the
Council Chambers of the Town Municipal Building at 42 First Street, N.W.
In attendance were:
Mayor: Robert N. Glenn, presiding
Councilmen Present: David L. Clark; Joseph K. Goodman;
H.M. Kidd; Lane R. Penn; James A. Radcliffe
Councilmen Absent: Gregory C. East (excused)
Administration: Shawn M. Utt, Town Manager
Nichole L. Hair, Deputy Town Manager
Legal Counsel: Spencer A. Rygas, Town Attorney
Press: Melinda Williams, Southwest Times
Staff Kim Caudill, Administrative Manager, Public Works
Dave Hart, Director, Parks & Facilities
Chief Robbie Kiser, P.F.D.
Chris Phillips, Street Superintendent, Public Works
David Quesenberry, Clerk of Council
Rebecca Reece, Finance Director
Chief Gary Roche, P.P.D.
Others Present:
Bryant Altizer
Joe Atkins
Mike Hopper
Tanya Keith
Clarissa Matson
Martin Paulson
Julia Reed
Vincent Russo
Kathy Sealander
Chris Utt
Belinda White
Dewana Altizer
Marjorie Atkins
Grace Hurst
Zoe Keith
Jeff McCoy
Clark Payne
Briggs Robinson
Vincent T. Russo
Mason Slomka
James Utt
Mariah White
Hannah Altizer
Christi Hopper
Cheala Johnson
Ryan Luu
Ann -Marie Paulson
Jordan Phillips
Bruce Robinson
Stephanie Rygas
Caleb Turpin
Stacey Utt
Genesis Wilson
Mayor Glenn called the meeting to order at 7:00 p.m.
Brandon Atkins
Mandi Hopper
Allie Keith
Addie Luy
Louisa Paulson
Jeanette Reed
Emily Robinson
Eric Sealander
Tom Underwood
Adair White
Zachary Woodrum
Councilman Kidd led the Pledge of Allegiance and Councilman Clark gave the Invocation.
Following roll call, Mayor Glenn asked if there were any modifications to the agenda. There
being none, he welcomed guests and visitors to the meeting.
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Next item on the agenda was Resolution 2018-09, a resolution recognizing the students of
the Pulaski County High School Theater Arts Department for winning the Division IV State
Championship for their play "You Don't Know Jack".(Item 7a.). Mayor Glenn and Town
Council were joined on the dais by Mr. Jeff McCoy, instructor and students from the
Theater Arts Department.
Mayor Glenn read the resolution honoring the students and their instructor for their
achievement. After he finished, he called on Town Council for a motion to approve the
resolution. Mr. Clark moved to adopt Resolution 2018-09 as written. His motion was
seconded by Mr. Penn and carried on the following roll call vote:
James A. Radcliffe -Aye
Gregory C. East -Absent
David L. Clark -Aye
Joseph K. Goodman -Aye
H.M. Kidd -Aye
Lane R. Penn -Aye
Mayor Glenn then presented Mr. McCoy with a framed copy of the resolution.
Mr. McCoy thanked the students for their hard work and thanked the Town for honoring the
students for winning a state championship. Mayor Glenn responded that he liked to see
students who participated in theater, band and similar activities receive recognition for their
efforts. He told he group that the Town appreciated everything that they did and wished
them success in the future.
Following the presentation, Council moved to the next order of business, the Public
Comment Period. (Item 9).
Mr. Tom Underwood addressed Council questioning the $25.00 registration fee to have
chickens in the Town. Since he had kept chickens in the town for the last twenty -years and
there was no law in the Town concerning chickens, he felt they should be grandfathered in.
Furthermore, he said he was told the fee was to pay for a position within the Town.
In another matter, Mr. Underwood said the previous Thursday morning, a police officer
came to his residence and put down a deer that was apparently very ill. He noted the
officer did call in concerning the incident, but that the deer was not picked up and had Iain
in the drain system for five days.
Returning to the issue of chickens, he requested that he be grandfathered in and thanked
the Council for their consideration.
Mayor Glenn asked about disposal of the deer. Mr. Utt replied that staff would take care of
it the following morning. Mayor Glenn then asked Chief Roche what were the instructions
for shooting deer within the corporate limits. Chief Roche responded that the process was
done as safely as possible. If someone reported a gunshot then the dispatcher would
inform them of the situation. In addition, dispatch was to notify Public Works to get the
animal.
Mr. Underwood commented that the officer was very discreet in handling the situation at
his residence and did a good job.
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Mayor Glenn asked if that applied only to deer that were injured. Chief Roche mentioned
that officers had to frequently put down wildlife injured by automobiles. Mayor Glenn
requested better coordination so if officers had to put an animal down, Public Works would
be notified so they could retrieve the remains.
Regarding the fee for chickens being used to pay for personnel, Mayor Glenn said that
was not correct. The Town he added, did not create fees to pay for any type of service to
the public. Concerning the grandfathering issue, he suggested, if Council was willing, he
recommended that staff review the issue and see if changes were needed.
Mr. Goodman asked Mr. Utt if he could find out the process for dispatching an animal and
how that was determined. Mr. Utt replied that in this case it appeared that the call was
dropped at the dispatch center, since Public Works was not notified, but that he would find
out.
Mr. Goodman also asked for clarification about chickens in Town. Ms. Hair responded that
there had been nothing on the books regarding chickens. Mr. Goodman urged that the
issue be clarified and asked staff to research the issue.
Council then moved to the Consent Agenda (Item 10a.). Mr. Kidd moved that Council
adopt the minutes of the January 3, 2018 meeting as written. The motion was seconded by
Mr. Clark and approved by a unanimous voice vote.
Council moved to the next item on the agenda, "Project Updates" (Item 11 a).
Mr. Utt reviewed several projects, noting first that the auditors would present the Town
audit at the February work session. He reported the grant application for the new ladder
truck had been submitted by the Grant Writer and the Fire Chief using feedback from the
previous application that hopefully would improve this year's application.
Concerning the Gatewood RFP for operational services, Mr. Utt informed Council that two
proposals were received. One applicant had been interviewed and another interview was
to be scheduled. He anticipated that a recommendation for Council might be ready for the
March 6th meeting. Referring to the Senior Center repairs, Mr. Utt said that materials were
on order but that higher than anticipated costs required staff to look at other options. Work
however was expected to begin soon.
Mr. Utt advised Council that conceptual drawings of the outdoor basketball/skateboard
park had been prepared and would be in the Weekly Update. He also reported that work
was in progress preparing cost estimates to determine what the Brownfields Grant would
pay for as well as what other funds would be needed.
Mr. Utt said that there was an additional state grant, the Land -Water Conservation Fund
Recreation Grant that the Town might apply for. In addition he found out earlier in the day
that there was the potential for additional brownsfield funds to become available by June
which might be applied to the rest of the project. He hoped that the entire project might be
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funded from the Brownsfield Grant and another grant, with little funding required from the
Town.
Mayor Glenn suggested as the time drew closer for Council to review the drawings for the
basketball/skateboard park, that the local skateboarding group be included in the process
to get their input on the project.
Mayor Glenn asked if there was a completion date for the project, Mr. Utt replied that the
since the grant funds must be spent by the end of the calendar year, he estimated it might
be late winter (2018) or spring of next year (2019) before a useable facility was available.
Mr. Kidd asked if the fence in the middle of the current skate park had been removed. Mr.
Utt replied that the middle fence was removed but the perimeter fence remained. Mr. Hart
added that the area had also been cleaned. Mr. Utt said that since a new area was under
development, the Town had not put much effort into the current skate park, but hoped to
relocate and make use of the existing ramps (at the new facility). Mayor Glenn suggested
that Mr. Utt reach out to the skateboard group and let them know where the Town was in
the process.
Mr. Goodman asked if there were plans to continue replanting trees at Oakwood given the
loss of trees. Mr. Utt replied he was not sure, and that there were at least a half-dozen
additional trees that needed to be removed. Mr. Goodman mentioned that most of the
larger trees were planted by Duval Seagle and that neighbors and family wanted to make
sure that all trees would not be removed which would take away some of the quality of how
the cemetery looked.
Mr. Goodman also noted that he had received a complaint from a citizen on 7th Street
about the use of flares to manage the vulture population. He asked Mr. Utt if that issue had
been addressed. Mr. Utt responded that he thought the flares had not been used in the last
couple of weeks and that he had forwarded an email he received on the issue to Chief
Roche so that he could forward it on to the USDA personnel.
Chief Roche mentioned that he had received comments from neighbors in that area
supporting and opposing the vulture interdiction. He stated that vultures travel in groups to
various locations on a regular basis. The group of vultures that might be interdicted in one
week would be replaced by a different group the following week, creating a conundrum for
the control effort.
Mr. Goodman said the vultures were either in Mr. Hagen's trees or his. Neighbors had
indicated to him that they did not want them there. Given the potential health and safety
concerns, he felt that efforts to move the vultures should continue, with an eye towards
getting them to shift to Magnox or another sparsely populated part of town. Mr. Utt
ventured the question would then be what method would be used to relocate the vultures.
Chief Roche told Council that if the vultures were on private property then there was
nothing that could be done.
Mayor Glenn asked Council if they had an opinion as to what they desired to do.
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He preferred that staff continue with the interdiction efforts because of potential health
issues. After a brief discussion, Council agreed that the interdiction efforts should continue.
Next item of business was the "Proposed Tier System for Town Personnel" (Item 12a.)
Mr. Utt informed Council that staff was working to finish the job descriptions, which were
about 90% complete. He added that the item would be on the work session agenda for
February.
Council then considered Resolution 2018-06 regarding the Public -Private Education
Infrastructure Act of 2002 and the Public -Private Transportation Act of 1995 (Item 12b.).
Mr. Utt said the resolution would formalize the process in the acts for Town Council.
Mr. Goodman moved to adopt Resolution 2018-06 as written. The motion was seconded
by Mr. Clark and approved on the following roll call vote:
James A. Radcliffe -Aye
Gregory C. East -Absent
David L. Clark -Aye
Joseph K. Goodman -Aye
H.M. Kidd -Aye
Lane R. Penn -Aye
Next item was Resolution 2018-07 supporting retention of local authority over installation
and operation of new wireless equipment. (Item 13a.).
Mr. Utt reported that the Virginia Municipal League (VML) had alerted localities that there
was legislation in the General Assembly that would remove local governments from the
cell tower approval process. This would allow cell towers to be built anywhere in a
municipality without local approval. In response to the legislation, VML sent a draft
resolution for Council to formally adopt.
Mr. Goodman said the legislation was being pushed because there were problems
erecting towers in densely populated areas. As 5G wireless became more common, he
continued, many more cell towers would be needed. The thought was that the process
would be controlled from Richmond instead of by local governments.
On Mayor Glenn's call for a motion, Mr. Goodman moved that Council adopt Resolution
2018-07 as written. The motion was seconded by Mr. Clark. Mayor Glenn asked Mr. Utt if
there was a push for this legislation by lobbyists. Mr. Utt replied that the cellular industry
was strongly backing the legislation.
Mayor Glenn felt the legislation would be bad for municipalities and that additional efforts
were needed to keep this authority with localities. He expressed concern that it would
affect community development, deny localities needed revenue, and saddle localities with
abandoned, obsolete towers when more advanced technology became available.
Mr. Utt informed Council that he had shared the Town's concerns with its state delegate
and senator. An approved resolution, he added would give more credence to the Town's
position.
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There being no further comments, Mayor Glenn called for the Council's vote, which
approved the resolution as follows:
James A. Radcliffe -Aye
Gregory C. East -Absent
David L. Clark -Aye
Joseph K. Goodman -Aye
H.M. Kidd -Aye
Lane R. Penn -Aye
Next item considered was Resolution 2018-08 supporting the creation of a small and rural
schools coalition (Item 13b.).
Mr. Utt said that the resolution was submitted by Dr. Siers, Pulaski County School
Superintendent. The coalition was recently formed by school districts in Southwest Virginia
to promote their concerns over school funding. Mr. Utt recommended that Council adopt
the resolution.
Mr. Goodman moved that Council adopt Resolution 2018-08 as written. The motion was
seconded by Mr. Penn. Mayor Glenn related at a recent PEP committee meeting, he
learned how the school districts were being shortchanged in the state legislature by
program cuts and unfunded mandates. He felt the resolution would prove useful in voicing
a strong opinion to make sure Richmond understood our concerns.
There being no further comments, Mayor Glenn called for the Council's vote, which
approved the resolution as follows.-
James
ollows:
James A. Radcliffe -Aye
Gregory C. East -Absent
David L. Clark -Aye
Joseph K. Goodman -Aye
H.M. Kidd -Aye
Lane R. Penn -Aye
Next item was Resolution 2018-10 regarding appointments to the Architectural Review
Board and the Planning Commission. (Item 13c.).
Mr. Utt informed Council that two individuals, Janet Hanks and Kevin Meyer, whose terms
on the Architectural Review Board and the Planning Commission were expiring, wished to
continue serving on those respective bodies. Mr. Meyer he noted, also served on the
Architectural Review Board as the Planning Commission representative. The resolution
would appoint both members to an additional four year term.
Mr. Kidd moved that Council adopt Resolution 2018-10 as written, appointing Janet Hanks
to the Architectural Review Board and Kevin Meyer to the Planning Commission and also
to the Architectural Review Board. The motion was seconded by Mr. Penn and approved
on the following roll call vote.-
James
ote:
James A. Radcliffe -Aye
Gregory C. East -Absent
David L. Clark -Aye
Joseph K. Goodman -Aye
H.M. Kidd -Aye
Lane R. Penn -Aye
Next item on the agenda was Architectural Review Board vacancies (Item 13d.)
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Mr. Utt informed Council that Ms. Pam Austin had resigned from the Architectural Review
Board and that Mr. Christopher Utt had decided not to seek reappointment. There also
remained an additional vacancy that had been filled by Tom Douthat, for a professional
architect. The Town had received two applications, but he recommended advertising for
additional candidates. Since the Downtown Grant would be starting soon, he noted that the
ARB and the project management team would be involved and that the ARB would require
full staffing.
Mr. Goodman asked if there were any other architects living in Town. Mr. Utt replied that
there were none. Ms. Hair said the ordinance required that the ARB consist of a majority of
town residents and that staff had an architect in mind. Mayor Glenn asked if the architect
was required to live in town. Ms. Hair said they were not, but a majority of the Board must
reside in Town. She felt that having one board member who worked in Town but did not
live here might prove to be advantageous to the Town.
Mayor Glenn asked if a professional architect was required to validate ARB decisions. Mr.
Utt replied that there was a great need to fill that position. Mayor Glenn asked Ms. Hair to
continue her inquiry outside of the Town.
Council next considered a request for joint hearing with the Planning Commission (Item
13e.).
Mr. Utt told Council that there was a request to rezone 508 5th Street, S.E. Staff
recommended holding a joint public hearing on March 6th. If Council did not wish to have a
joint hearing, then the Planning Commission would have their public hearing on March 12th
and Council would hold their hearing on April 31d. A joint hearing, Mr. Utt said, speeded up
the process by about 30 days.
Mr. Goodman asked if it had been confirmed that there were no legal issues. Mr. Utt
answered there were no legal issues regarding the joint hearing. Council agreed with
staff's recommendation to hold a joint hearing.
Next, Council reviewed Resolution 2018-11 regarding the easement to SBA (Item 13f.).
Mr. Utt told Council that the resolution formalized the sale of the cell tower easement at the
Ridge Avenue site. Mr. Rygas added that there were several items in the contract that
would need to be ironed out. The resolution he continued, authorized the documentation to
be prepared and executed by the Town Manager. Mr. Utt clarified for Council that the
Town Manager would be authorized to execute the documents subject to the final review
and approval of the Town Attorney to insure that all issues were resolved.
Mr. Kidd moved that Council adopt Resolution 2018-11 as written. The motion was
seconded by Mr. Goodman and approved on the following roll call vote.-
James
ote:
James A. Radcliffe -Aye Joseph K. Goodman -Aye
Gregory C. East -Absent H.M. Kidd -Aye
David L. Clark -Aye Lane R. Penn -Aye
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Mayor Glenn then entertained a motion to go into Closed Session (Item 14) for one item
under Va. Code 2.2-3711, a (1), discussion for consideration of employment, assignment,
appointment, promotion, performance, demotion, salaries, disciplining, or resignation of
public officers, appointees or employees for one item regarding an employment contract
review; and one item under Virginia Code 2.2-3711 a (5), discussion concerning a
prospective business or industry, or the expansion of an existing business and industry,
where no previous announcement has been made of the business' or industry's interest in
locating or expanding its facilities in the community regarding utility services.
Mr. Goodman moved to go into Closed Session. Mr. Penn seconded the motion, which
was approved on the following roll call vote:
James A. Radcliffe
-Aye
Joseph K. Goodman
-Aye
Gregory C. East
-Absent
H.M. Kidd
-Aye
David L. Clark
-Aye
Lane R. Penn
-Aye
Council entered Closed Session at 7:53 p.m.
Council returned from Closed Session at 9:43 p.m.
Mayor Glenn asked for a motion to certify the Closed Session in that only those two items
under Va. Code 2.2-3711 a (1) and a (5) were discussed. The certification motion was
made by Mr. Goodman, seconded by Mr. Clark and approved on the following roll call
vote:
James A. Radcliffe -Aye Joseph K. Goodman -Aye
Gregory C. East -Absent H.M. Kidd -Aye
David L. Clark -Aye Lane R. Penn -Aye
Following a review of upcoming meetings and there being no further business, Mr.
Goodman moved for adjournment. The motion was seconded by Mr. Clark and approved
by the unanimous voice vote of the Council at 9:45 p.m.
Approved:
RoI64rt N. Gle
Mayor
ATTEST:
David N. Quesenber
Clerk of Council
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