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Minutes of the called meeting of the Pulaski Town Council held at 6:00 p.m.,
Wednesday, February 27, 2019 in the Council Chambers of the Town Municipal
Building at 42 First Street, N.W
In attendance were:
Mayor: David L. Clark, presiding
Councilmen Present: Brooks R. Dawson; Gregory C. East;
Joseph K. Goodman; Lane R. Penn; James A. Radcliffe
Councilmen Absent: G. Tyler Clontz
Administration: Shawn M. Utt, Town Manager
Nichole L. Hair, Deputy Town Manager
Legal Counsel: Spencer A. Rygas, Town Attorney
Staff David Quesenberry, Clerk of Council
Rebecca Reece, Finance Director
Others Present: April Bennett
1. Call to Order
Mayor Clark called the meeting to order at 6:00 p.m.
2. Roll Call
Following the Call to Order, the roll of Council was taken. Present were Mayor Clark,
Mr. Dawson, Mr. East, Mr. Goodman, Mr. Penn and Mr. Radcliffe. Absent from Roll Call
was Mr. Clontz. Since a majority of members were in attendance, a quorum of Council
was present to conduct business.
3. Modification of the Agenda
Mayor Clark then requested a motion to add one item to the Closed Session under Va.
Code 2.2-3711 A (8) consultation with legal counsel or briefings by staff members or
consultants pertaining to actual or probable litigation regarding a zoning application.
Mr. Goodman moved to modify the agenda as stated. The motion was seconded by Mr.
East and approved on the following roll call vote:
Lane R. Penn
-Aye
Brooks R. Dawson
-Aye
Gregory C. East
-Aye
Joseph K. Goodman -Aye
G. Tyler Clontz -Absent
James A. Radcliffe -Aye
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4. Consideration of a Department of Criminal Justice Services (DWS) Grant
Application for a Forensic Nurse Facility
Council next considered the DCJS grant application for a forensic nurse facility.
Mr. Utt suggested that Mayor Clark give Council an update on the Board of Supervisors
meeting held on Monday evening.
Mayor Clark reported that the Board of Supervisors, after hearing the presentation, gave
County Administrator Jonathan Sweet the ability to work with the Town on the project.
The fact that there was time before the money was needed gave Mr. Sweet the
opportunity to look for and find money, resources, etc. for what they wished to do on the
project.
Mayor Clark also reported on a meeting with the Lewis-Gale Pulaski Hospital CEO
earlier in the day, who seemed interested in the program. The hospital could not give
cash donations, but were interested and willing to do some in-kind donations of
furnishings, etc. for the office when it opened. Documentation was being prepared by
the hospital, indicating their willingness to participate in the project.
Mr. Utt proposed, since the two meetings had taken place and the comfort level was
much higher, that the Town would be able to come up with $100,000 in seventeen
months. Due to a leak in the roof of the building at 72 East Main Street, Mr. Utt said the
Town would have to go ahead and replace the roof. Mr. Utt said he and Mayor Clark
would be meeting with Mr. Sweet the following day and would ask him for inmate labor
to clean the property up. He said that the Town had to wait for a period of time before
anything could be used as a match. However, if the value of the building could be
increased (roof repair) it could be donated to the project for the match. He added that he
felt more confident about the project.
Mr. Radcliffe asked if the house (former Safe Haven) on Third Street, N.W. would be a
better fit or not. Mr. Utt replied that he asked Mr. Sweet about it and thought that the
County had a long-term use in mind for the property that involved the library.
Mr. Radcliffe added he talked with the Sheriff and the Commonwealth Attorney. The
Commonwealth Attorney emphasized that he saw a need for the project. After these
conversations, Mr. Radcliffe said he felt better in that it was time for this project. Mayor
Clark said he discussed the matter with Social Services, who told him that a child
traumatized by an incident would be further traumatized by a hospital visit and that this
discrete approach was better.
Mr. Dawson asked if $100,000 was needed. Mr. Utt explained the two year grant
required $200,000 a year match which would be covered by Giles Co. the first year. In
year two, the Town would come up with $100,000 and Giles Co. $100,000. Ms. Bennett
said that the Town's part would come into play on July 1, 2021.
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Mr. Dawson asked about the value of the building. Mr. Utt replied it had a tax value of
$35,000. He ventured that a new roof and some redevelopment could increase the
value to $50,000. Mr. Dawson asked about the cost of the roof to which Ms. Hair said
would be form $18,000 to $25,000. Mr. Utt suggested that the roof should be repaired in
any event. Mr. Goodman added that he felt the property should also be appraised.
Mr. Radcliffe asked who the organization would answer to. Ms. Bennett said that Giles
Co. would take the lead. Mr. Penn asked if the facility would be staffed 24 hrs. a day.
Ms. Bennett replied that someone would be on call 24 hrs.
Mr. East asked if the Town felt that the building would be more than sufficient for the
match requirement including what the County and the hospital might do. Mr. Utt said he
had committed to working out $50,000 of the $100,000 as the Town's portion and
challenged others to come up with the other $50,000. The County he continued, had 1 E
months, two budget processes and a sizeable contingency, which would make
procuring the funds would be easier for them. Mr. Utt said he felt much more
comfortable after hearing the results of the Board of Supervisors and hospital CEO
meetings.
Mr. Dawson noted that the Town would spend $20,000 as a cash investment and asked
if that would be the end of the Town's contribution. Mr. Utt responded that even if the
grant was not funded, the Town should still spend the money ($20,000) on the roof (72
East Main Street).
Mr. Dawson asked if the grant continued, would there need to be an additional
$100,000 for the following two years. Ms. Bennett responded that following this two year
grant, the grant would have to be reapplied for again assuming the money was
available. If the money was not available, she added that there was other grant funding
obtainable. An additional grant under this program would be for $750,000. If the funding
was not available, other approaches could be used to keep the program going.
Mr. Goodman said that if the program could not be grant funded or "fund raised", the
Town would have to come up with a quarter of that. Mr. Utt said the other option was for
the program to cease. He added he had committed the Town to the initial grant portion,
but if the Town looked at commitments beyond that, there would have to be additional
conversations. Mr. Goodman suggested that if this grant went through, searches should
begin immediately for additional grants, fundraising, etc.
Ms. Bennett said at this point with this grant, the patient could not be billed. If we did not
get the grant, the insurances could be billed with copays from the patient written off so
they would not have to pay. Insurances could be billed to have some income coming in.
Mr. Dawson said if the Town approved being in on the grant, then there would be an
additional expense to the budget on an annual or biennial basis. Ms. Bennett said that
the uncertainty of funding was a problem with grants. She said that usually if you get the
initial grant, you are more likely to get funded again after that. Mr. Utt added that there
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were other grants the facility was eligible for and that they should be looked at, once the
facility was operational.
Mr. East asked how many forensic nurses would there be initially. Ms. Bennett replied
that there would be seven total with one as a medical director and one on flex -time
working one shift a week. Mr. East observed that there should be some kind of resource
sharing arrangement with local hospitals. It seemed to him that this was a need in the
community but nobody wanted to "step up to the plate". Ms. Bennett responded that it
had been that way for years. She related that working on a regional level, along with
other arrangements including sharing ER nurses, simply did not work.
Mr. Dawson asked if there had been any conversations with Mr. Sweet, after he was
given approval by the Supervisors and was there any idea as to what his thoughts were.
Mr. Utt reported that he had talked with Mr. Sweet, who said he would carry through
what the Board told him to do. He wanted to get some input from tonight's Council
meeting and an idea of what the next steps were. The County Mr. Utt continued, did not
have to come up with any funds anytime soon, while the Town had the problem of
coming up with money for the building. Mr. East observed that the Town had that
problem even without the grant.
Mr. East stated that the Town was committed to cover the entire $100,000. Mr. Utt said
the Town was committed to collecting the $100,000. Pulaski County was going to sign
on as a partner with the Town, who in turn signed on as a partner with Giles County.
Technically though he added, the Town agreed to contribute $100,000. Mr. East asked
as the grant went forward, would it have the Town's name. Mr. Utt replied Giles Co.
would sign on as the applicant and the Town would be signed -on one step away as co -
applicant. Mr. East noted the Town was committing to come up with the $100,000 while
looking at a good faith situation with the County and the hospital.
Mr. Goodman asked if the Supervisors took a vote or nodded their heads. Ms. Bennett
said they all said yes to which Mr. Goodman said he felt that indicated a firmer
commitment to the Town. Mr. Utt said Mr. Sweet stated he was directed by the Board to
make it work. Mayor Clark noted the hospital was in the process of making a written
commitment. Mr. Utt added that the Town would have all commitments in writing.
Mr. Rygas said one issue Council would have to think on their evaluation, was that it
may be unlikely to transfer the property. He did not know if there would be a stand-alone
entity involved. If the building was given in order to minimize the cash input, he
questioned what would happen if the funds dry up. Then the entity would have the
building and not the Town. The question was, he said, even if there was a give -back or
buy-back provision, did that minimize the Town's cost or what the Town was allowed to
count as a match. He said that Council had to think it through if they were relying wholly
on the structure (as a match).
The facility he continued, could be rented before the two years resulting in an
accumulation of rent. He cited the uncertainties for grant funding after year two, which
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had been clearly stated. When there was a funding situation heavily reliant upon the
applicant standing alone, at some point someone would ask for an accounting of
services rendered given the number of staff. Depending upon the scope of the region
served, the issue would be if it made sense concerning amount of money involved. He
felt in was something to consider if it impacts the decision to donate or lease the
structure.
Mr. Utt felt that if the structure were given, there would definitely be a claw -back
provision if it ceased to be a forensic nursing facility. Mr. Goodman suggested an
agreement setting the rent, possibly covering the utilities, for $2,500 per month. He
ventured that the building would be $50,000 in value, with the Town still the owner so
there would be no need for a claw -back. If the program continued, that value could be
used or increased which could help the Town with a long-term commitment to the
program. Mr. East felt the suggestion was logical and Ms. Bennett said she liked it.
Mr. Goodman asked about the square footage of the structure. Mr. Utt estimated about
2,000 sq. ft. Mr. Goodman said one owner downtown was getting $1,500 per month for
a similar amount of square footage.
Mr. Dawson asked where the $20,000 to repair the roof would come from. Mr. Utt
replied that he expected that there would be enough money in contingency to cover that
cost. Mr. Goodman thought that there may be money left over in this fiscal year's
budget. Mr. Utt suggested partnering with the Dr. Southern on her adjacent roof project
to get some savings. He also added that the Contingency Fund was budgeted at
$65,000 but only $7,000 had been used.
After a discussion of other funding/grant sources and communications with the County,
Mr. East said that action was still needed. Mr. Utt said the action needed was to
authorize a partnership with Giles Co. for the grant and to authorize the Town Manager
to sign any forms needed on the Town's behalf.
Mr. Goodman made the motion which was seconded by Mr. Radcliffe and approved on
the following roll call vote:
Lane R. Penn -Aye
Brooks R. Dawson -Aye
Gregory C. East -Aye
Council next went into Closed Session.
Joseph K. Goodman -Aye
G. Tyler Clontz -Absent
James A. Radcliffe -Aye
5. Closed Session
Mayor Clark then asked for a motion to enter Closed Session for one item under
Virginia Code 2.2-3711 (A) 7 -consultation with legal counsel pertaining to actual or
probable litigation regarding a zoning application.
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Mr. Goodman moved to enter Closed Session for the referenced item. The motion was
seconded by Mr. Dawson and approved on the following roll call vote:
Lane R. Penn -Aye Joseph K. Goodman -Aye
Brooks R. Dawson -Aye G. Tyler Clontz -Absent
Gregory C. East -Aye James A. Radcliffe -Aye
Council entered Closed Session at 6:35 p.m. and returned from Closed Session at 7:18
p.m.
Mayor Clark asked for a motion that Council only discussed the single matter for which
it went into Closed Session regarding Virginia Code 2.2-3711 (A) 7 -consultation with
legal counsel pertaining to actual or threatened litigation regarding a zoning application.
Mr. Goodman moved to certify the Closed Session. The motion was seconded by Mr.
Penn and approved on the following roll call vote:
Lane R. Penn -Aye Joseph K. Goodman -Aye
Brooks R. Dawson -Aye G. Tyler Clontz -Absent
Gregory C. East -Aye James A. Radcliffe -Aye
6. Reminder of Future Council Meetings
There were no announcements concerning future meetings.
7. Adjournment
Mayor Clark then called for a motion to adjourn. Mr. Goodman made the motion which
was seconded by Mr. Dawson and approved by unanimous voice vote of the Council at
7:20 p.m.
ATTEST:
David N. Quesenb ry
Clerk of Council
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Mayor
L. Clark