HomeMy WebLinkAbout11-04-20Minutes of the Pulaski Town Council Meeting held at 5:30 p.m., November 4, 2020 in the
Council Chambers of the Town Municipal Building at 42 First Street, N.W. The session also
featured a general broadcast by Facebook.
In attendance were:
Mayor: Shannon Collins, presiding
Councilmen Present: Brooks R. Dawson, Greg East;
Lane R. Penn; James A. Radcliffe; Michael P. Reis
Councilmen Absent: G. Tyler Clontz
Administration: Darlene L. Burcham, Town Manager
Legal Counsel Spencer A. Rygas
Staff: David Quesenberry, Clerk of Council
Jordan Whitt, Social Media Manager
Press: Jen Cardone, WDBJ 7
Others Present Amanda Martin Gary W. Martin
1. Call to Order
Mayor Collins called the meeting to order at 5:31 p.m.
2. Roll Call of Council
The roll was then called. Present for roll call were Mayor Collins; Mr. Dawson; Mr. East; Mr.
Penn; Mr. Radcliffe and Mr. Reis. Absent from Roll Call was Mr. Clontz. With a majority of
Council members present a quorum existed for the conduct of business.
3. Modifications to the Closed Session Agenda
There were no modifications to the Closed Session agenda.
4. Closed Session
Mayor Collins then requested a motion to go into Closed Session for the following matters: two
items under Va. Code 2.2-3711 (a) 1, personnel matters concerning appointments to boards
and commissions and discussion of prospective candidates for employment; one item under Va.
Code 2.2-3711 (a) 3 concerning acquisition of property and disposition of publicly owned real
property; and two items under Va. Code 2.2-3711 (a) 7, consultation with legal counsel
concerning potential or actual litigation regarding a zoning violation and a code violation.
Mr. East moved to enter Closed Session as requested. His motion was seconded by Mr.
Dawson and approved on the following roll call vote:
Lane R. Penn
Brooks R. Dawson
Gregory C. East
Closed Session began at 5:33 p.m.
-Aye James A. Radcliffe -Aye
-Aye G. Tyler Clontz -Absent
-Aye Michael P. Reis -Aye
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5. Certification of Closed Session
Council returned from the Closed Session at 6:54 p.m. Mayor Collins then requested a motion
that Council only discussed those items for which it went into Closed Session: two items under
Va. Code 2.2-3711 (a) 1 personnel matters concerning appointments to boards and
commissions and discussion of prospect candidates for employment; one item under Va. Code
2.2-3711 (a) 3 concerning acquisition of property and disposition of publicly owned real
property; and two items under Va. Code 2.2-3711 (a) 7, consultation with legal counsel
concerning potential or actual litigation regarding a zoning violation and a code violation.
Mr. Dawson moved to approve the requested closed session certification motion, which was
seconded by Mr. East and approved on the following roll call vote:
Lane R. Penn
-Aye
James A. Radcliffe
-Aye
Brooks R. Dawson
-Aye
G. Tyler Clontz
-Absent
Gregory C. East
-Aye
Michael P. Reis
-Aye
6. Pledge of Allegiance
Mr. Dawson then led the Pledge of Allegiance at 7:00 p.m.
7. Invocation
Following the Pledge, Mr. East gave the Invocation.
8. Modification of the Public Session Agenda
Mayor Collins then asked for a motion to modify the agenda to add two items under "New
Business": Item 15d. Resolution 2020-37 Appointment of Jordan Whitt to Pulaski on Main; and,
Item 15e., Resolution 2020-38, Resolution Nominating Barry Hale for Re -appointment to the
Board of Zoning Appeals.
Mr. East moved to amend the agenda as proposed. The motion was seconded by Mr. Penn and
approved on the following roll call vote:
Lane R. Penn -Aye James A. Radcliffe -Aye
Brooks R. Dawson -Aye G. Tyler Clontz -Absent
Gregory C. East -Aye Michael P. Reis -Aye
9. Guests and Visitors
Mayor Collins welcomed both guests and visitors to the meeting, then proceeded to the Public
Comment Period.
10. Public Comment Period
Ms. Amanda Martin 1101 Lynwood Street addressed Council as the sole speaker for the public
comment period.
Ms. Martin said she had spoken with Mrs. Burcham and were working on two different
scenarios. Ms. Martin said they were present to give Council some information about the
property and the land for Council to look over and possibly vote on the issue. The information
involved property measurements and different ways to install the driveway.
Mr. Reis mentioned that any sale of real estate required a public hearing which needed to be '
advertised ahead of time. He ventured that Council would not have a problem receiving through
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Mrs. Burcham any proposals as far concerning how things would be worked out. He said that
Council could only say "yes or "no", but that Ms. Martin could work with Mrs. Burcham to make
sure that "it checks all the boxes that we need to have checked" as far as measurements and
other things. That would be'something that than Council could provide an answer for. He asked
Ms. Martin if that made sense to which she replied "Somewhat, yes".
Mr. Reis further explained to Ms. Martin that they were asking Council to sell them a piece of
property. Council could not answer a question about as to whether or not Council might sell
them a piece of property. They could only as a legislative body either sell them something or not
sell them something. Mr. Reis suggested that Ms. Martin provide a description as to what they
wanted Council to sell to them. Ms. Martin responded that was what she had. Mr. Reis said that
was great and asked that Ms. Martin provide them with the basis of that information. He added
that in order for Council to have a vote on it, procedurally as state statute required, Council had
to go through that process since real estate was involved for which there were very specific
requirements in the State Code. He asked Ms. Martin if that made sense, to which she
responded that it made sense.
Ms. Martin said she also intended to give a petition that had signatures and comments from
Town citizens for Council to look over.
Mrs. Burcham said she understood that two options were mentioned and asked Ms. Martin if
that was correct. Ms. Martin said that it was. Mrs. Burcham then asked Ms. Martin if she could
share details on the second option at this point. Ms. Martin asked if she was referring to
purchasing the land or having to move and that she had information on both. Mr. Reis asked
Ms. Martin if she minded sharing the information. He added that Council could not vote on the
issue tonight but would be happy to hear it to see where things were at so they (Council) could
evaluate it. Ms. Martin said she had not been through this before to which Mr. Reis said his
intent was to help her understand why there could not be a vote tonight. Ms. Martin said she
assumed it would take time.
Ms. Martin told Council the house had been measured along with what they felt was a
reasonable lot area if a purchase was allowed. If there was not a purchase, there was one place
in town that had been looked at, which would be for rent not purchase, along with two other
properties in the County. There had been no timeline determined to get the unit moved because
they did not know what all would have to be done (e.g. septic etc.). One location did not have
septic service so other options were being looked at.
Mr. East told Ms. Martin that there was one primary concern concerning the entrance to the
property which ran through the eleven acre plot of land. He asked if they were pursuing options
and ways to get into that property. Ms. Martin responded that they had and mentioned that she
had spoken with Greg Nash who owned the property connected to the lane behind the house.
Mr. Nash had spoken with the L.L.C. who actually owned the property and said that they might
allow the Martins to put a driveway in so the existing driveway would not have to be used. Ms.
Martin said she could provide a drawing if Council wanted to see it. Mr. East responded that
Council would like to see any information available.
Mr. Radcliffe, mentioning Ms. Martin's previous appearance before Council, reminded her that
one of the last things Council told her was to maintain contact with Mrs. Burcham as best as she
could with what information she had. He added that they were willing to work with her, but if they
did not hear anything from her ......Ms. Martin said she had been keeping in touch with Mrs.
Burcham. Mrs. Burcham told Ms. Martin that she needed something by last Friday to send out to
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the Council to prepare them to talk more about the proposal at tonight's meeting. While
apparently, Ms. Martin had some of that information, Council was not in a position tonight to
really say anything because they did not have the benefit of looking at it.
Mrs. Burcham told Ms. Martin that she needed to provide her as soon as possible copies of
whatever she had. She added that she had suggested a timeline be provided as to activities
done regarding the proposal. The Council would get the information right away so they would be
in a better position to react the next time someone wanted to speak to the issue. Mrs. Burcham
told Ms. Martin that she had not had any communication from her since Friday a week ago. She
added that Ms. Martin could call her, email her or bring her something. Ms. Martin asked how
often was Mrs. Burcham to be contacted. Mrs. Burcham responded that she told Ms. Martin a
week ago Friday to bring something by last Friday and suggested a weekly basis would be fine.
Mayor Collins asked Ms. Martin if she could give the information she brought to this evening's
meeting to Mrs. Burcham who told Ms. Martin that Council would get copies of what she had
brought.
Mr. Radcliffe suggested to Ms. Martin that she create a checklist and check off tasks as they
were done so Council would know where they were at. Mayor Collins added that everyone
would be on the same page.
Mr. Dawson felt it was important, considering whether it was possible to purchase any aspect of
that land, that access to that land was pertinent to the proposal. It went, as he described "hand
in hand", with everything that had been discussed. He felt it would be impossible to pursue that
option without having access to the land. It was a critical piece in the discussion and it would be
impossible to look at that proposal without confirmation to figure something out.
Mr. Reis suggested that Ms. Martin get in touch with a surveyor even if it turns out one is not
needed. If a parcel was sold there was a need to get it surveyed. Given how busy local
surveyors were, the sooner she got on someone's list the better. A survey was the kind of thing
that Council could vote for. He thought that the Martin's would probably have to go through the
survey process in any event.
Ms. Martin said she thought had asked Mrs. Burcham about that. Mrs. Burcham reminded Ms.
Martin that she told her that she needed to bring to the Council what land was proposed for
purchase. The Council would have to say "yea" or "nay" that they were agreeable to this amount
of land before a surveyor prepared a plat and gave an appraisal. In the meeting Mrs. Burcham
said that contacting a realtor was mentioned and also inclusion of an existing building that the
Town owns. Mrs. Burcham said she expressed her view that the Council would not be
agreeable to that and that Ms. Martin should, either with a drawing or taking pictures, show how
much land they wanted in reference to the residence and let Council see it. If Council thought
the amount of land proposed was reasonable, then it could be surveyed.
Mrs. Burcham said what she thought Mr. Reis said was that the surveyors were so busy that
Ms. Martin may want to get on a list. For example in six weeks or eight weeks, something might
need to be surveyed, so you would already be on a list. Otherwise she said, that could mean a
delay. She thought if Ms. Martin could tell the Town about the properties they were looking at,
not necessarily the addresses, but what was going to be needed there (e.g. one lot required
septic) which would also take time to install which would be part of the time period. The Council,
Mrs. Burcham explained to Ms. Martin, had repeatedly said they were willing to work with her on
the timing of these options if they know what she (Ms. Martin) was doing and how she was
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going about it. To hear nothing back unfortunately would lead the Council to believe nothing was
being done. That was why it was important to have regular communication.
Council thanked Ms. Martin for bringing them her information.
11. Consent Acienda
a. Consideration of October 20, 2020 Council Meeting Minutes
Mayor Collins then asked for a motion to consider the minutes from October 20, 2020. Mr. Reis
moved for approval. Mr. Dawson seconded the motion which was approved by a unanimous
voice vote of Council.
12. New Business
a. Agency on Aging Appointments, Resolution 2020-36
Since there was no discussion, Mr. East moved to adopt Resolution 2020-36 as written. The
motion was seconded by Mr. Penn and approved on the following roll call vote:
Lane R. Penn -Aye James A. Radcliffe -Aye
Brooks R. Dawson -Aye G. Tyler Clontz -Absent
Gregory C. East -Aye Michael P. Reis -Aye
b. Naming of Streets in the Town/ Discussion West Main
Mr. Reis noted in his work with the Calfee School and T.G. Howard Center, that mention was
made that the street had been renamed and he was asked if that had been done. At his request
the Clerk had researched the issue with the finding that the Town did not have a street naming
ordinance. He noted that the Town was authorized to name streets by state statute, but there
was not an ordinance in place. He felt the Town should have an ordinance telling how this would
be done. He asked Mrs. Burcham for her thoughts on the issue.
Mrs. Burcham said some localities had a street naming policy and a building/facility naming
policy as well. After discussions with the Clerk, Mrs. Burcham said she prompted him to survey
other communities. She noted she was impressed with the Radford ordinance because of its
detail. She asked for some guidance from Council so the Town Attorney could prepare a draft
ordinance for future review. Absent a policy there was the possibility for things to "fall through
the cracks" as this particular one did and there was a lack of a consistent way that naming was
done by a single entity. The survey work clearly indicated that naming was done by the
governing body, which might have a public input process or solicit names from interested
individuals. She felt that the more that was placed in a policy the clearer it would be in the future
and the less confusion there would be.
Mr. East agreed the Radford ordinance was the most involved, while Blacksburg's ordinance
touched on a lot of the highlights. He observed that other communities, like Pulaski, did not
have the process "nailed down" completely. Mrs. Burcham said that at least a number of them
made some statement as to who would do the naming without going to the extent of formalizing
it in an ordinance or written policy. They were however clearer on who had the responsibility
than the Town has been in the past.
Mrs. Burcham ventured if a new subdivision came into the area, the developer would submit a
site plan including proposed street names. If in the future there was any type of annexation,
properties might be acquired that had similar/same names as Town streets which would have to
be addressed. Having a policy she concluded was a good idea and it would be a matter of how
detailed or how comfortable Council would be with that policy
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Mr. Radcliffe asked if naming the street involved VDOT in some manner. Mr. East said he did
not recall any instances. Mrs. Burcham said the Town maintained the roads and clearly had the
responsibility for naming streets. There just had to be a designation as to who was involved.
Mrs. Burcham mentioned naming portions of a street would be defined as running from one
intersection to another. Council did have the authority to name streets.
Mr. Dawson said the issue came up with the Calfee School project and that the Council agreed
that it was comfortable with the renaming of that street to Corbin -Harmon. He asked if Council
needed to back up and get a policy in place and use that policy to name the street. Mr. Reis felt
the Council was empowered to vote on it and as a matter of good practice it would be a good
idea to impose an ordinance for future changes. There should be a policy for new streets
renaming streets, and handling conflicting street names.
Mr. East asked if there had been a formal vote on the name change (West Main to Corbin -
Harmon Drive). Mrs. Burcham responded there had not and that was the problem. She felt
Council could have the vote since they had the discussion and at the time intended for the
renaming to happen, but no one had brought forward the required action for Council. She felt
there would not be a problem if Council went ahead and publicly took a vote to make that
change and have staff prepare a draft ordinance for Council's consideration for future use. She
did not feel there was a reason to delay voting on this request because there was discussion in
the past and it apparently had Council's support.
Following the discussion, Mr. Reis moved to rename that portion of West Main/Magnox Drive
from Randolph Avenue to Magazine Street, Corbin -Harmon Drive. The motion was seconded by
Mr. Penn and approved on the following roll call vote of Council:
Lane R. Penn -Aye James A. Radcliffe -Aye
Brooks R. Dawson -Aye G. Tyler Clontz -Absent
Gregory C. East -Aye Michael P. Reis -Aye
Council next discussed holiday activities.
C. Holiday Activities
Given the circumstances of this year, Mrs. Burcham said she had discussions with the Mayor and
staff on the practices of the Town pertaining to the Christmas Holiday. She understood that past
practice was to have a luncheon and grant the employees the rest of the day off which effectively
shut down Town hall, a practice that she did not find was practical.
She suggested this year that: (1) the luncheon be cancelled on account of the pandemic; and, (2)
that employees be granted half a day off between December 10th and December 22"d. Supervisors
could then schedule those times so that the Town could be fully covered.
Concerning the presentation of employee service awards, Mrs. Burcham suggested that there
could be a special meeting or time taken at a regular meeting to recognize employees. The
presentation would be broadcast on Facebook so the public could hear and see how many
employees the Town had who had given many years of service to the community. The public
would have a chance to see the recognition which she felt would mean so much to the employees
to have their presentations done in that manner. Those were her suggestions for this year in light
of the pandemic, the monetary situation, and trying to find a better way to recognize those
individuals who have given many years of service.
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After a short discussion on the necessity of a motion, Mr. Reis moved to grant a floating one-half
day holiday for all employees at the Manager's discretion in December and that one of the Council
meetings would be rescheduled to provide recognition of long term employees at an appropriate
time. Mr. East seconded the motion which was approved on the following roll call vote:
Lane R. Penn -Aye James A. Radcliffe -Aye
Brooks R. Dawson -Aye G. Tyler Clontz -Absent
Gregory C. East -Aye Michael P. Reis -Aye
After the vote, Mr. East asked about an ordinance for the street renaming. Mrs. Burcham
suggested that a draft might be ready for the work session. After Council's review, the measure
could be put on a December agenda.
d. Resolution 2020-37, Appointing Jordan Whitt to Pulaski on Main
Following the discussion, Council then considered appointing Jordan Whitt to Pulaski on Main.
Mr. Reis moved to adopt Resolution 2020-37 as written. The motion was seconded by Mr. Penn
and approved on the following roll call vote:
Lane R. Penn
-Aye
James A. Radcliffe
-Aye
Brooks R. Dawson
-Aye
G. Tyler Clontz
-Absent
Gregory C. East
-Aye
Michael P. Reis
-Aye
e. Resolution 2020-38, Resolution Nominating Barry Hale for Re -appointment to the Board
of Zoning Appeals.
Next Council considered the nomination of Barry Hale to the Board of Zoning Appeals. Mr. East
moved to adopt Resolution 2020-38 a Resolution Nominating Barry Hale for Re -appointment to
the Board of Zoning Appeals, as written. The motion was seconded by Mr. Penn and approved
on the following roll call vote:
Lane R. Penn -Aye James A. Radcliffe -Aye
Brooks R. Dawson -Aye G. Tyler Clontz -Absent
Gregory C. East -Aye Michael P. Reis -Aye
13. Manager's Report
Mrs. Burcham said she had placed at each of their seats a brochure that she had Mr. Whitt
develop. The brochure would be put on heavier stock paper and would be distributed out of the
Finance Office whenever a new water service or a transferred water service was requested. The
brochure listed various places that the customer might need to contact in addition to dates when
things were due to the Town. The hope was that this would minimize some of the concerns that
had been recently heard from citizens.
Mrs. Burcham said the auditors had discussed with her and Mrs. Leeper the UDAG loan fund's
place in the restricted fund balance of the Town. After the discussion with the auditors, Mrs.
Burcham said she and Mrs. Leeper were comfortable with Council taking an action that would
clear up an internal balance in the fund balance of $1,000,000. The current UDAG liability, since
it was on the restricted fund balance, totaled $1.22 million. If $1 million were cleared off, there
would still be approximately $220,000 in the restricted fund.
The funds the Town would receive on roof loans and other loans would go into the UDAG fund.
Mrs. Burcham added she saw no need to carry a balance in excess of $1 million that the Town
had no intention of repaying. Council would need to decide if it wanted to take action or not this
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evening. She felt it would be prudent to handle it that way since it had the support of the
auditors.
Mr. Dawson asked if there was any benefit besides cleaning up paperwork. Mrs. Burcham said
the amount went from being in a restricted fund of $1.22 million to an unrestricted fund which
meant there was greater access to the cash if needed. It also would help Council in its desire to
increase the percentage of the fund balance and make it available for a true emergency. As a
restricted amount it could not be used for any other purpose, but if it was in the unrestricted
balance it could be accessed.
Mr. Dawson asked if it was possible to clear up the $1 million amount without making it
unrestricted. Mrs. Burcham replied it was not unless the Town wanted to repay it which it had
not done or appeared to have intentions of doing so. She explained the UDAG was intended to
help with economic development with the goal that it would be replenished as it was used. In
reality that had not happened. The numbers years ago were much higher than today, with no
expectations on anyone's part that it would be repaid at some point in the future. Since she had
just learned about this today, Council might want some time to consider it. The Manager's report
then concluded.
Mr. Reis said he was comfortable moving the amount, but if everyone else was not, he was
happy to wait. Mr. East said he was comfortable with it and was trying to formulate a motion. Mr.
Reis asked if the action was essentially reconciling the account. Mrs. Burcham he was correct.
Mr. Reis ventured that the current receivables would stay in the account. Mrs. Burcham replied
that amount had been carried for years at something over $1 million and that it never really had
gone beyond that. It was being carried on the books as a liability, but was called by the auditors
"as a change in internal balancing" which was why moving it from restricted to nonrestrictive
allowed it to be used if the need arose.
After a discussion on the form of the motion and at the suggestion of the Town Attorney, Council
elected to get the proper wording for the motion from the auditors before addressing the issue at
the next meeting.
14. Reminder of Future Council Meetings and Adjournment
There being no further business, Mayor Collins reminded Council of future meetings on
November 17th (with the Closed Session beginning at 5:00 p.m. and the public session
beginning at 6:30 p.m). Mayor Collins then called for a motion to adjourn. The motion made by
Mr. East and approved by the unanimous voice vote of Council at 7:44 p.m.
ATTEST:
David N. Quesenb
Clerk of Council
Approved:
W. Shannon Collins
Mayor
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