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Town Council Meeting Minutes
March 4, 2025
1. Vice -Mayor Dawson called the meeting to order at 6:00 p.m. and asked for a roll call.
Jeremy L. Clark- Aye
Sunshine N. Cope- Aye
Brooks R. Dawson- Aye
G. Tyler Clontz- Aye
Steven W. Erickson- Aye
Joel B. Burchett- Aye
Mayor Collins- Absent
2. Modification to Closed Session- No modifications were made.
Vice- Mayor Dawson asked for a motion to enter into Closed Session to discuss the
following items:
a. VA Code 2.2-3711 (A) 1 (2 items)- Personnel Matters
i. Appointments to Boards
ii. Town Manager
b. VA Code 2.2-3711 (A) 3 (1 item)- Acquisition/Disposition of Real Property
i. SHAH Development
The motion was made by Councilwoman Cope and seconded by Councilman Clark.
Jeremy L. Clark- Aye
Sunshine N. Cope- Aye
Brooks R. Dawson- Aye
G. Tyler Clontz- Aye
Steven W. Erickson- Aye
Joel B. Burchett- Aye
Mayor Collins- Absent
The following council members and staff entered into Closed Session: Councilman Clark,
Councilwoman Cope, Vice -Mayor Dawson, Councilman Clontz, Councilman Erickson,
Councilman Burchett, Town Manager, Todd Day, Town Attorney, Scot Farthing, Clerk
of Council, Ms. Hale.
Councilman Clontz exited Closed Session before the discussion of SHAH Development.
7:05 pm
Open Session
4. Certification of Closed Session- Vice -Mayor Dawson asked for a motion to certify that
only the following items were discussed in Closed Session:
a. VA Code 2.2-3711 (A) 1 (2 items)- Personnel Matters
i. Appointments to Boards
ii. Town Manager
b. VA Code 2.2-3711 (A) 3 (1 item)- Acquisition/ Disposition of Real Property
i. SHAH Development
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The motion was made by Councilman Clark and seconded by Councilwoman Cope.
Jeremy L. Clark Aye G. Tyler Clontz- Abstained Mayor Collins- Absent
Sunshine N. Cope- Aye Steven W. Erickson- Aye
Brooks R. Dawson- Aye Joel B. Burchett- Aye
5. Councilwoman Cope lead the audience in the Pledge of Allegiance.
6. Councilman Clark gave the invocation.
7. Vice -Mayor Dawson welcomed all in attendance and viewing online.
8. Modification to Public Session
Vice- Mayor Dawson asked for a motion to return to Closed Session after item 12 on the
agenda.
The motion was made by Councilman Clark and seconded by Councilwoman Cope.
Jeremy L. Clark- Aye G. Tyler Clontz- Aye Mayor Collins- Absent
Sunshine N. Cope- Aye Steven W. Erickson- Aye
Brooks R. Dawson- Aye Joel B. Burchett- Aye
9. Presentations
a. Condemnation Process- Code Enforcement Officer, Carla Hodge & Acting
Building Official, Nathan Smythers
Vice -Mayor Dawson stated there have been questions from the public regarding
the blighted properties and structures that are vacant, they are curious about what
is being done and what should be done and asked that Ms. Hodge and Mr.
Smythers explain the process and steps they have to go through to remedy the
issues.
Ms. Hodge reported the first step is when a citizen complaint comes to her office,
they will inspect the property, document any violations, notify the property owner
and give them time for compliance, if they don't comply or take corrective action,
Ms. Hodge and Mr. Smythers will re -inspect and take court action if needed. The
court can then assign a fine or give the property owner more time to comply. In
the case of unsafe structures, the property owner is notified with a notice of
violation, a placard is posted on the property, a legal notice is advertised in the
paper, an asbestos report is required if the structure is going to be demolished, and
a quote for demolition is obtained.
Ms. Hodge stated there are 17 structures that are unsafe that her and Mr. Smythers
have identified in the town, they are boarded to keep trespassers out because they
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are so dilapidated, she stated the average cost to demolish a structure is around
$15,000 plus the payment cost.
Manager Day reported there are methods and processes that the town can go
through if a property is structurally unsound; we can acquire the property along
with the land, work with the EDA to give it to a developer and build a new
structure on the property. He reported $150,000 has been budgeted for Ms. Hodge
to work on the list of homes that are condemned.
Mr. Farthing commented on a new bill that was passed by the General Assembly
to clean up blighted properties that was driven by Bristol, Virginia, where the land
gets transferred to the locality and the locality can clean it up and then own it.
Councilman Burchett asked of all the dilapidated structures, which ones are
occupied and if there are owners, do the owners live in town.
Ms. Hodge stated none of the properties are occupied and a lot of the situations
she comes across, the property owner is an absentee owner.
Councilman Burchett asked if Ms. Hodge felt supported by the court system.
Ms. Hodge stated she feels supported as the judge in the general district court has
good knowledge of the town code, and works together with staff and property
owners that are brought to the court.
Councilman Burchett stated he remembered when the town had a task force to
take care of the same issues but it was never acted upon and he remembered
looking at their recommendations but between then and now the code has not
changed. He asked what Council could do to help, if there needs to be more teeth
in the code, then maybe amending some things in the code.
Ms. Hodge stated amending the code may strengthen the enforcement of it.
Manager Day stated he was looking into programs offered by DHCD and other
assistance to get Project Revitalize off the ground but it will take time.
Councilman Erickson addressed his concerns regarding the budgeted amount,
where the money comes from and how is the money recruited.
Manager Day stated previously with ARPA money, the town was comfortable
financially but the only way to be aggressive to that level, to grow the community
to see a larger tax base, we have to do due diligence, review the tax base, taxes,
and fees and operate within a given budget.
Councilman Erickson stated he would hate to think that the Police Department
couldn't get a new cruiser, Public Works couldn't get a new dump truck, or get a
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new transit vehicle because the town has spent over a quarter million dollars on
tearing houses down and a tax increase should be necessary to replace needed
equipment is easier to explain than a tax increase to tear down houses.
Councilwoman Cope asked if the listed homes were up to date on taxes.
Manager Day stated some are and some are not, and that you can put liens on
them but if no one is paying liens, the value of the property is going to increase
when the property has no value. The remedy is to fight for business, recognize the
incentives that we know is out there, and use them and how to attract business and
although he doesn't want to recommend to raise taxes or fees, water and sewer
rates will increase, as they do each year, because of the capital improvement
projects, there isn't any other choice. He stated if we can grow the economy, by
getting more business; more homes, that's more tax dollars back to the town.
Councilman Burchett asked if three quotes were obtained before any demolition
work was done.
Manager Day stated the town follows the procurement structure.
Councilman Erickson asked if there was a way for the town to remove itself from
the process, to sale the property to a developer.
Manager Day stated the town would still have to acquire the property to be able to
sale it to a developer.
Vice -Mayor Dawson thanked Ms. Hodge and Mr. Smythers for their work
towards this process as it's a big and important topic and commented on
Councilman Erickson's statement that there is an expense to it, but it is part of the
obligation to the citizens, that it can't be looked at as a frivolous expense, it has to
be looked at as part of the work that we do, not necessarily that we can't do. It
needs to be looked at as our responsibility that the 17 unsafe structures, that have
neighbors, we have to do everything that we can do to fix them and if it requires
money to do it, we need to be trying to find that money somehow to accomplish
that. He also stated that if there are missing pieces in the code that need to be
looked at to benefit our citizens and put more responsibility on the property
owners then it needs to be looked at.
Manager Day stated we can look at different areas of cooperation, like waiving
taxes, but it would also need cooperation with the county to waive those taxes, but
the main goal is to get a new home on the property.
Councilwoman Cope asked if the listed properties were owned by the same
people and what was the average time for the town to procure the property.
Ms. Hodge stated they are different owners, which most are deceased and if
everything goes smoothly, it takes around six months.
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b. Streetscapes Update- Project Engineer, Austin Painter
Mr. Painter stated the goal of this project is to provide as much support for our
community through rejuvenation and repair of our main street, to support both
pedestrians, increase the transportation viability of the downtown through
pedestrian access, and to support the businesses by redoing aesthetics of our
streetscape. The progress has been moving along and the contractors have been on
site, working in front of the Pulaski theater.
He reported because the bid for the project came back lower than expected, lower
than the construction estimate, that we are seeking and finding ways to pay the
difference for the selected light poles. The cost estimate from AEP currently is
roughly around $100,000.
Councilman Clark asked if work is being completed on schedule.
Mr. Painter stated they are on schedule.
Councilman Burchett asked if there were any concerns from the business owners
about water intrusion into their business.
Manager Day stated there was a business with water issues but it'll be alleviated
when the project is complete. This project has VDOT- approved sidewalks, which
comes at a specific fall but unfortunately, due to the taper on the sidewalk, the
road will have to be milled and repaved.
Vice -Mayor Dawson asked if the lights were already ordered to prevent any
issues with them not coming in or being delayed.
Mr. Painter stated AEP is ready to go on their end, they're waiting to schedule it
to where the light poles don't have to sit in too long on their lots, the order has
been placed just not invoiced to the town yet.
Vice -Mayor Dawson stated he would like to see the same trees that are being
planted on Main Street be planted on the surrounding blocks to bring a more
uniform look to the downtown area.
Councilman Burchett asked that the town be cognizant of what trees are being
planted, no big treesm, as they tear up sidewalks.
Mr. Painter stated the town consulted an arborist and the trees that were chosen
were installed in various downtown communities and chosen to prevent that
specific issue.
Councilman Erickson asked if their plan was to complete Main Street in quarters.
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Mr. Painter stated that is their plan, but with construction there could be issues
they run into or find a more efficient way to use their time.
10. Discussion
a. Fine Arts Center $3,000 Supplemental Funding Request (voting)
Manager Day asked to table the discussion until after the budget work session.
Vice -Mayor Dawson asked for a motion to table the discussion of the Fine Arts
Center supplemental funding request.
The motion was made by Councilman Clark and seconded by Councilwoman
Cope.
Jeremy L. Clark- Aye
Sunshine N. Cope- Aye
Brooks R. Dawson- Aye
G. Tyler Clontz- Aye
Steven W. Erickson- Aye
Joel B. Burchett- Aye
Mayor Collins -Absent
11. Public Comment Period
a. Tom Underwood, a long-time resident of the Town of Pulaski addressed Council
with his concerns for the trees being planted on Main Street saying there is a gap
between the tree and sidewalk and it is impassable if a mother has a stroller or if
multiple people are trying to pass each other. He asked about town code regarding
uninhabited properties, if a property is uninhabited year after year, to strengthen
the code and to choose five easy properties and get rid of them. He stated his
concerns with the gas prices in town, and also there isn't enough public relations
as there should be in the paper or on the town's website. Mr. Underwood
addressed his concerns regarding the town's financial spending, he asked Council
to look into how much money is given to the Fine Arts Center and the museum,
stating `if you can't save it, giving it money doesn't help'. The last topic Mr.
Underwood addressed with Council was that the town to stop funding things for
the county, he stated he is double taxed and his taxes pay for anything the county
builds and does.
12. Consent Agenda
a. Consideration of February 18, 2025 Town Council minutes
The motion was made by Councilwoman Cope and seconded by Councilman Clark to
adopt the minutes as written.
Jeremy L. Clark- Aye
Sunshine N. Cope- Aye
Brooks R. Dawson- Aye
G. Tyler Clontz- Aye
Steven W. Erickson- Aye
Joel B. Burchett- Aye
13. Council Comments & Board Updates
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Mayor Collins- Absent
Councilwoman Cope thanked town staff for their continued hard work.
Vice -Mayor Dawson reported he attended his first Regional Commission meeting and
thanked Kevin Byrd and his group for the impressive orientation. He stated they went out
of their way to make sure he was informed with projects and meet other representatives
on the board.
Councilman Erickson stated when he and Councilwoman Cope attended the Chamber of
Commerce breakfast, they brought up an idea to have a designated spot in town to bring
food trucks periodically. He reported he has gotten complaints regarding the dirt in the
Food Lion parking lot from the water line break and asked Manager Day if that was the
town's responsibility to clean up. Councilman Erickson also addressed the construction
signs on Main Street stating there's a sign that says the area is closed for construction but
another sign that says the area is open, and it could be misleading. Mr. Painter
commented stating the construction sign is a requirement from the state and that's why
the additional signage was in place to instruct pedestrians that Main Street is open for
businesses. Councilman Erickson also mentioned having a parking lot that someone owns
that could be turned into a vendor fair. Manager Day stated there are codes to address it
but he would get back to Councilman Erickson with those. The last topic Councilman
Erickson asked was that council members receive a list of newly issued business licenses
to inform residents, when asked, about new businesses in town.
There was a discussion regarding the Chamber of Commerce membership fees and Main
Street business signs. Manager Day stated there is a sign program for businesses on West
Main Street, that the town would pay for their front signage, but that doesn't mean that
the specs of that program couldn't change. Vice- Mayor Dawson stated the idea was to
grow Main Street and theoretically, Main Street grows a community from within and out,
the incentive for Main Street was put in place for what the town could afford, how to
grow business on Main Street and it was something that was driven by a particular
project focused on that, it wasn't necessarily intentionally left out of other areas. Manager
Day stated he would find out the boundaries of that sign program at get back to
Councilman Erickson with that information.
14. Manager's Report
Manager Day reported he attended two events this week, one being a tour at the
Bimmerworld facility, which the town was apart of helping them locate to the Memorial
Square location and he was amazed that we have a business like that inside the political
jurisdiction. The other event he attended was a ribbon cutting for the expansion of
Broussard's General Store, he stated they have put up with a lot of diversity, due to the
town issues, sidewalk deterioration, sidewalk replacement, water issues, and they are
extremely humble, they have weathered the storm and were still able to expand their
space. He stated with those two events, he is extremely please to be in a community that
businesses, like those two, exist in.
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Manager Day informed Council and listeners of the One Bag Challenge with Pulaski
County. Vice -Mayor Dawson asked if a resident wanted to participate in the One Bag
Challenge but there was a safety issue due to traffic, would there be a way to coordinate
that trash collection safely. Manager Day stated he would work with Chief Shumate and
asked that they reach out to him so he could coordinate that request.
Manager Day also reported there was a study done a few years back that addressed the
main sewer interceptor which the town is responsible for that reaches all the way to
Pepper's Ferry. He informed Council that an ad has been placed looking for an
engineering firm and a meeting with Pulaski County and the Town of Dublin will be held
to get acclimated to that project.
15. Reminder of Future Council Meeting
a. March 12, 2025 6:00 p.m. Budget Work Session
b. March 18, 2025, Closed Session 6:00 p.m.; Open Session 7:00 p.m.
16. Vice- Mayor Dawson asked for a motion to enter back into Closed Session at 8:27 p.m. to
discuss the following items:
a. VA Code 2.2-3711 (A) 1 (2 items)- Personnel Matters
i. Appointments to Boards
ii. Town Manager
b. VA Code 2.2-3711 (A) 3 (1 item)- Acquisition/Disposition of Real Property
i. SHAH Development
Manager Day commented saying the discussion regarding appointments to boards has
been completed, Council did not have time to discuss the other two items and there were
no additions to the agenda for Closed Session.
The motion was made by Councilwoman Cope and seconded by Councilman Clark.
Jeremy L. Clark- Aye
Sunshine N. Cope- Aye
Brooks R. Dawson- Aye
G. Tyler Clontz- Aye
Steven W. Erickson- Aye
Joel B. Burchett- Aye
Mayor Collins- Absent
The following council members and staff entered back into Closed Session: Councilman
Clark, Councilwoman Cope, Vice -Mayor Dawson, Councilman Erickson, Councilman
Burchett, Town Manager, Todd Day, Town Attorney, Scot Farthing, and Clerk of
Council, Ms. Hale.
Councilman Clontz entered into Closed Session after the discussion of SHAH
Development. Clerk of Council, Ms. Hale, exited Closed Session before the discussion of
Personnel Matters, Town Manager.
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17. Certification of Closed Session- Vice- Mayor Dawson asked for a motion to certify that
only the following items were discussed in Closed Session:
a. VA Code 2.2-3711 (A) 1 (1 item)- Personnel Matters
i. Town Manager
b. VA Code 2.2-3711 (A) 3 (1 item)- Acquisition/Disposition of Real Property
i. SHAH Development
The motion was made by Councilman Clark and seconded by Councilwoman Cope.
Jeremy L. Clark- Aye
G. Tyler Clontz- Abstained Mayor Collins- Absent
Sunshine N. Cope- Aye
Steven W. Erickson- Aye
Brooks R. Dawson- Aye
Joel B. Burchett- Aye
18. With no further business, Vice -Mayor Dawson adjourned the meeting at 9:48 p.m.
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Brooks R. Dawso
Vice -Mayor
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