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PULASKI
MINUTES
Town of Pulaski Planning Commission
May 10, 2021
Commissioners Present: Kevin Meyer, Chair; Janet Jonas, Vice Chair; Terry
Hale; Luke Seigfried
Commissioners Absent: Tracy Belcher; Chris Conner
Town Staff: Brady Deal, Panner/Economic Developer/Zoning
Administrator
1. Call to Order
Chairman Meyer called the meeting to order at 6:00 p.m.
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A quorum was determined since four of the six Commissioners were present.
3. Review and Approval of Minutes
a. April 12, 2021 minutes were unanimously approved as amended noting
two grammatical changes on a motion by Janet Jonas and a second by
Terry Hale.
4. Public Hearing
5. Old Business
a. Comprehensive Plan Update Process
i. Review Survey Questions
ii. Discuss Future Land Use
iii. Map Exercise
Mr. Deal provided a staff update on the Comprehensive Plan. He noted that a notice
had been sent out in the Water Bill to town residents. He stated there are 4,600
water users so the notice definitely reached a significant number of people. Mr. Deal
also stated that the number of individuals using the engagement site tripled but still
is significantly lower than hoped for.
Ms. Jonas asked if the local news media has covered the Comprehensive Plan
update process.
Mr. Deal stated that WDBJ7 had interviewed in in April regarding the
Comprehensive Plan update process and the engagement site created by the
N RVRC.
Mr. Deal stated that the Working Group would meet before the next Planning
Commission, preferable in the end of May.
Aphi stated that the first Working Group meeting would include an overview,
introduction, and processing of demographic data. She stated that we hope to meet
with that group over the next two or three months.
Mr. Deal stated that the Town has had a substantial amount of interest in the Town,
specifically in the Downtown. He stated that the RFP for 37 West Main received 10
proposals for the project and that he felt that was an indicator for the interest in the
Downtown.
Aphi then discussed her updates to the survey and asked if the Commissioners had
any comments.
Ms. Jonas stated that two of the areas of importance for the town were childcare and
food security and that she did not see those items included in the survey.
Aphi responded that she had considered that and was thinking there could be quick
polls in the online survey which she felt would be the appropriate place. She stated
that this would allow the Commission to push content through the engagement site
every few weeks or so for residents to respond to.
Chairman Meyer stated that he assumed the site could remain available after the
Comp. Plan process completed and could be used to host special surveys and/or
questionnaires for residents. He said that it should not be limited to a one-time use
but used continually by the individuals who sign-up and register.
Aphi stated that there are many different special surveys, quick polls, or brief
questionnaires that could be presented to residents for their feedback.
Mr. Deal stated that he appreciated the focus of Ms. Jonas on childcare because of
the desperate need for childcare providers in the Town. He felt that childcare
facilities and influence could directly impact positive economic development.
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Ms. Jonas stated that data is very important in the process of applying for grants and
that the surveys/quick polls could help in the data mining process and will provide
proof that there is a desperate need. She stated specifically there is not alternative
hour day-care for individuals working second shift for example. She felt that little
pop-up polls would be great but we need to know what questions to ask.
Chairman Meyer suggested working with Social Services regarding the feedback
loops they already are accessing so that we do not have recreate the wheel and can
feed off their data.
Ms. Jonas stated that Beans and Rice has put together a mobile food market and
they consulted the YMCA, Social Services, and the School System to determine the
areas of need. She stated that is a good example of using key stakeholders to
develop a strong approach.
Aphi stated that she could reach out to other individuals in her organization for some
data that may be helpful. She also stated that based on the County survey, it was
apparent child care was a major issue.
Chairman Meyer stated that question 14 of the survey needed to be revised.
Aphi then posed a few alternatives for how the question be worded. A brief
discussion ensued about the structure of the question.
Mr. Deal stated that question 14 is connected to the issue the Town is facing with an
imbalance in the number of residents that work in the Town but do not live in the
Town. He stated that the imbalance presents an opportunity to disperse the tax
burden on non-residents.
Mr. Seigfried asked if an alternative could be asking how far one travels to work.
Aphi stated that she was thinking on asking what zip code people live in.
Mr. Seigfried stated he is not aware of the exact zip code he works in because he is
new to the area so it may be helpful to just ask commute time. He also asked if
these questions could be branching questions which can eliminate unnecessary
questions for individuals and achieve more insightful data.
Aphi stated that branching questions are a great idea and she agreed with Mr.
Seigfried that these questions can bring more understanding.
Chairman Meyer stated that he was not a fan of question 10 and that he felt there
should be more diverse options to select when responding to what type of housing
would you like to live in.
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Aphi stated she could modify the question and include pictures of different types of
housing.
Chairman Meyer stated that the Town does not have a multitude of housing options
like other communities have. He stated that condos, over/unders with garage, high-
end apartments, and patio homes are mostly non-existent throughout the Town.
Mr. Deal stated that the Town needs to identify a philosophy towards housing as
they filter and review development. He stated that there are a plethora of old homes
and that to create new housing options the Town needs to consider if they want to
seek out a process of demolishing old homes or constructing new development on
undeveloped land. He stated that as staff, it would be helpful to know what housing
efforts the Town should pursue and where they should pursue them.
Chairman Meyer stated that there isn't a significant amount of undeveloped property
in the Town and it will be an enormous task to demolish dozens of houses because
of the acquisition process.
Mr. Deal stated that developers have been purchasing properties here and there and
depending on the zoning district they ask what type of housing the Town would
suggest building back because often the lot is zoned to accommodate single-family,
two-family, and multi -family housing.
Ms. Jonas stated that she is interested in knowing how the developer that is
renovating Claremont decided on the type of housing options they wanted to
construct. She asked how did they make the money work.
Mr. Deal stated that he did not know what information they used but he knew they
were acting on a hunch that the Town would serve as an overflow for people priced
out of other housing markets.
Chairman Meyer stated that the Town has taken some pretty poor -quality multi-
family situations out of the market overtime. He provided an example of an old
house on Jefferson Street that was converted. He further stated that these often
become problematic for the community because they get run down and are often ill -
maintained. He stated that many families/individuals do not want houses this size
due to the amount of renovation work needed to make them inhabitable.
Mr. Deal stated the process of pursuing properties that are uninhabitable and
attempting to have them demolished is an arduous process.
Chairman Meyer stated that he wasn't sure if these properties were uninhabitable
but that they would require a substantial amount of investment into rehabilitation.
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Mr. Deal stated that some developers have converted these large single-family
structures into multi -family structures because of the increased profitability but that
often these properties become sources of issues.
Ms. Jonas stated that affordable housing and high-quality housing do not have to be
exclusive.
Mr. Seigfried asked if question 10 and question 11 were redundant.
Chairman Meyer stated that he thought Aphi could combine the two questions.
Mr. Seigfried asked if the childcare and food security items could be added to
question 1. He also asked for input about a question for local businesses and job
opportunities because he has heard a lot of people interested in starting and
opening their own businesses. He clarified by saying that he would like to add those
few items as additional answers to question 1.
Mr. Deal stated that he felt Aphi chose her answers based on their connection to
quality of life.
Aphi stated that she felt those would fit in question 4.
Mr. Seigfried stated that childcare and food security would be in question 1 and that
local businesses would be in question 4.
Ms. Jonas asked if the services in question 4 could be threshed out more.
Aphi discussed some of her ideas to expand on services in question 4 and stated
that she intended to put in examples.
Ms. Jonas stated that she had a conversation with an individual about what
constitutes a vibrant community and that person stated retail is what creates traffic.
As they reviewed the downtown they determined there were a significant amount of
services. She stated that maybe the use of the word shopping in the survey could be
broken down more to include various forms of shopping.
A discussion ensued between the Commissioners regarding potential businesses
the Town could benefit from having downtown. Mr. Hale mentioned a hardware
store, Ms. Jonas mentioned a shoe store and office supplies store.
Ms. Jonas asked when we were hoping to go live with the survey. Aphi stated
hopefully before the end of the month but she would like to come back and possibly
do a demo at the next meeting.
Chairman Meyer asked how the Town's website is doing these days. He stated that
he has found the website difficult to rely on and was wondering if anything could be
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down to improve the functionality and reliability of the information posted on the
website.
Mr. Deal stated that the website could be better utilized and that Jordan Whitt, Social
Media Manager, has been working diligently to update the website whilst taking on a
myriad number of responsibilities aside from media management.
At this time, Aphi transitioned the meeting into a discussion on Land Use and some
of her observations as she has reviewed the Future Land Use Map. Her desire was
to differentiate the commercial districts and residential districts. She stated that
currently there was one residential district code that described every residential
district in the Town and one commercial district coded that described every
commercial district within the Town.
Chairman Meyer agreed that it can be confusing considering the different types of
residential districts in the zoning ordinance and on the zoning map.
Aphi then proceeded to discuss the issues with not including density types in the
Future Land Use Map. She explained the difference between low, medium, and
high-density residential land uses. An extensive discussion ensued regarding the
necessity or non -necessity of including different densities and intensities on the
revised Future Land Use map to distinguish the differences between different
residential and commercial uses.
Chairman Meyer stated that to determine the differences he would like to see a map
blown up to have better detail of what is currently there.
Aphi stated her basic premise for bringing up this discussion is to determine if the
Planning Commission would like to include density and intensity in the Future Land
Use map.
Chairman Meyer stated that he did not know where to stop and start some of the
differences because of the intermingled uses such as residential and commercial in
the downtown.
Mr. Deal stated that Aphi is trying to make the Future Land Use map more insightful
by including a differentiation in the densities of certain areas.
Chairman Meyer provided an overview of the creation of the zoning map and how
the zoning map was based on existing use and then they tried to group things
together even though there were discrepancies. He stated that the last time they
reviewed the Future Land Use map, they had to consider what changes had
occurred and how it affected the land use. He further explained how a primary focus
was identifying conservation areas. He stated that he was not opposed to breaking it
down so that it provided more clarity to an individual reviewing it that did not have
the zoning map as well.
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Aphi then explained what her preliminary thoughts were on some of the potential
changes that could be made to better differentiate densities for desired Future Land
Use.
Chairman Meyer asked how we handle this process considering some owners have
the intent of preserving their current land use forever.
Mr. Deal stated that it is likely one day that some of the undeveloped properties,
even agricultural land, will end up being converted to a developed use.
Aphi stated that low-density residential means quarter acre lots or approximately
10,000 square feet and medium -density means approximately 7,000 square feet
lots. She then reviewed some of the commercial areas in the Town and described
how the future land use could label them as low -intensity commercial vs. medium -
intensity commercial.
Mr. Deal asked if the Commission had a preference of making the Future Land Use
map more specific or not.
Chairman Meyer stated that it would be beneficial for the property owners to have an
idea of what the Town foresees the future land use being for their property or those
around them.
Ms. Jonas stated the various apartment complexes such as Washington Square,
Meadowview, and Carriage Hill are all near each other and all are high-density
residential land uses.
Chairman Meyer responded that there are several surrounding properties near them
that are not high-density.
Mr. Deal asked if that area is an area the Town wants to designate as a high-density
area.
Chairman Meyer stated that many of the property owners would not want that
because it would devalue their property.
Mr. Deal stated that it would be helpful to the Town when working with developers to
provide them more direction in what type of units they should construct which the
zoning ordinance only does to an extent because some districts permit a variety of
different housing types.
Aphi stated that it would be helpful to have a general idea but that we will continue
this conversation at future meetings.
Aphi transitioned to review some of the goals from the past comprehensive plan to
discuss some of the progress made towards these goals. She stated that she would
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like the Commission to review the past goals together and discuss what changes
need to be made to the goals and objectives.
A discussion ensued regarding the goal for two-way traffic. Ms. Jonas stated that
this idea has come up again and again over the years and the studies that have
been conducted never seemed to gain support.
Chairman Meyer stated that he wishes main street had more space for people to sit,
eat, and relax on the sidewalk or a street -side seating area.
Mr. Deal stated that the Habitat for Humanity land behind the County Administration
building is a possible location for pedestrian/recreational use in the downtown.
A brief discussion ensued regarding potential open spaces in town and potential
areas for development to create downtown gathering spaces.
Aphi then stated that she had nothing further for the Commissioners to review.
6. New Business
7. Staff Report
8. Other Business
9. Adjournment
With there being no further business to discuss, Chairman Meyer adjourned the meeting
at 7:27 p.m.
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